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VVVVVV => VVVVVV => Topic started by: someonethatfailed on January 02, 2012, 04:00:26 am

Title: Blind Mode
Post by: someonethatfailed on January 02, 2012, 04:00:26 am
When you go on flip mode on the 3d version it makes you blind. I want to see how far people can get. My best:traffic jam
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: seaking177 on January 02, 2012, 04:47:57 am
does it count if i have Invincibility on? cause if it doesn't, screw that :(.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: someonethatfailed on January 02, 2012, 05:04:28 am
Sure. Its hard enough bilnd invinceble.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Martze on January 03, 2012, 08:52:15 pm
So... the music doesn't loop properly, 3D doesn't work in flip mode, and the new remix of Predestined Fate doesn't play normally?

Sounds like par for the course for Nicalis.  :)
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: seaking177 on January 03, 2012, 09:06:14 pm
i don't know what yoy mean about the music not looping, it loops fine for me. but yes, flip mode doesn't work at all, only a black screen.  the remixed song works normally in the normal game, in time trials the remix doesn't start properly.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Terry on January 03, 2012, 09:17:26 pm
So... the music doesn't loop properly

Wait, what? That's the first I've heard of that one!
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Whirligig on January 03, 2012, 10:52:25 pm
Okay, now someone has to beat No Death Mode with the black screen.  :vermillion:
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Martze on January 03, 2012, 11:27:07 pm
Paced Energy looped weird for me when I was testing my own level. I'll check it again and see if I can reproduce it.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: seaking177 on January 04, 2012, 12:30:25 am
Paced Energy looped weird for me when I was testing my own level. I'll check it again and see if I can reproduce it.
if you tell me where it looped oddly for you i can try and make it loop oddly in that room, and make will make sure it can be redone  :viridian:!


Edit:

yep, user made levels have odd music looping in it!
http://youtu.be/AL-QnYdujhY
i have only tested it on 333333 (easy mode) but i am pretty sure it applies to ALL user made levels.
also, Martze didn't tell me where it was or how he got the music looping strangely, i think this is what he had happen to him :(
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Martze on January 04, 2012, 04:36:14 am
Yeah, I can reproduce it in my own stage and in Souleye's New Dimension. It appears to work anywhere Paced Energy is played.

It happens at about 2 min 30 sec, a few seconds after the voice says "Gotcha." It might be subtle if you're not familiar with the song or not musically inclined, but it stuck out like a sore thumb to me.

EDIT: I watched your video; your issue appears to be an entirely different matter.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: seaking177 on January 04, 2012, 05:01:25 am
ah well...atleast i found another glitch :P

i think i will try doing your glitch and try to record it as well.

and that song, "Paced Energy" , what does it sound like...? im bad at song names  :victoria:
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: darkhog on January 04, 2012, 07:59:23 am
Maybe we should add Blind mode as proper game mode in 2.1?
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Martze on January 04, 2012, 07:19:12 pm
Paced Energy is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yRSkV9Bmhw&feature=related

Also, if you turn on flip mode, start a new game, and quit without saving, the options menu to toggle flip mode goes away. You have to start the game, save, and quit to turn it off. I suspect many unsuspecting players will not figure this out.

LOL, Nicalis
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Terry on January 04, 2012, 08:14:13 pm
To be fair to Nicalis, I played through the entire game in flip mode before we submitted it to Nintendo, and everything worked fine. So everyone involved here is pretty confused about how this even happened.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Martze on January 04, 2012, 10:20:58 pm
Oh, all right. I'll let off them a bit for now.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: seaking177 on January 05, 2012, 01:11:25 am
Paced Energy is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yRSkV9Bmhw&feature=related
oh, that song! i like that song haha. and, it seems thats the same one from the video i made! thats awesome.
im gonna need to listen to the whole song a few times to see if i can spot the exact spot it messes up at, good thing i have good headphones to check
[Edit] come to think of it, what sound settings did you have? Surround, Stereo, or mono? because i dont notice anything wrong with Surround sound settings[/edit]

everything worked fine.
this makes me think nintendo did something to the version Nicalis put in.

i still think they did a great job porting VVVVVV though, even with all the fun glitches.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Martze on January 05, 2012, 02:47:32 am
Paced Energy is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yRSkV9Bmhw&feature=related
oh, that song! i like that song haha. and, it seems thats the same one from the video i made! thats awesome.
im gonna need to listen to the whole song a few times to see if i can spot the exact spot it messes up at, good thing i have good headphones to check
[Edit] come to think of it, what sound settings did you have? Surround, Stereo, or mono? because i dont notice anything wrong with Surround sound settings[/edit]

everything worked fine.
this makes me think nintendo did something to the version Nicalis put in.

i still think they did a great job porting VVVVVV though, even with all the fun glitches.

Mono/Stereo/Surround should not matter, and if it does, Nicalis has done something horribly horribly wrong.

Accusing Nintendo of making mysterious changes to the game and breaking an entire mode in the process is a serious and unfounded charge.

I fully believe Flip Mode was working in an earlier build. My suspicion is that they made some last minute changes/bugfixes and accidentally broke Flip Mode in the process. In other words, they did not fully test their final build of the game.

That's okay, though. Lots of developers use the "release buggy, patch later" model. Nicalis is hardly unique.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: seaking177 on January 05, 2012, 03:16:42 am
i don't know the programing stuff for the 3DS, those were just thoughts.
i wonder what game from the eshop with get the first updates, 3DSWare or VC games?
{edit} well, seems the first updates came out this week.
http://gbatemp.net/topic/317764-updates-for-virtual-console-games/ {/edit}

(On topic) come to think of it, im gonna test and see if i can get to the end of the game without blind mode on, turn it on before i finish the game, and see if it counts  :viridian:! (gotta remember to use  :viridian: instead of :D from now on...that laughing face is creepy)

if it does...i will be surprised.

edit: yep, didnt work.  :victoria:
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: someonethatfailed on January 10, 2012, 04:06:34 am
Maybe its when they changed the room name Whee Sports(before the gravitron) to Copyright Infringement.Or did that happen before that got submitted...
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Terry on January 10, 2012, 12:44:53 pm
Maybe its when they changed the room name Whee Sports(before the gravitron) to Copyright Infringement.Or did that happen before that got submitted...

Oh, haha - someone noticed :D

We failed submission first time around because of that. It's why we didn't get it out before Christmas like we were aiming to. Oh well.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: SirBryghtside on January 10, 2012, 04:49:14 pm
Oh, haha - someone noticed :D

We failed submission first time around because of that. It's why we didn't get it out before Christmas like we were aiming to. Oh well.
Wow, really? That's the craziest reason ever XD
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Martze on January 10, 2012, 07:50:04 pm
Maybe its when they changed the room name Whee Sports(before the gravitron) to Copyright Infringement.Or did that happen before that got submitted...

Oh, haha - someone noticed :D

We failed submission first time around because of that. It's why we didn't get it out before Christmas like we were aiming to. Oh well.

Nintendo rejected the game because you used something copyrighted by Nintendo? I don't follow.

It wasn't even a scatological joke.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: Terry on January 10, 2012, 08:01:40 pm
Nintendo rejected the game because you used something copyrighted by Nintendo? I don't follow.

I don't either.
Title: Re: Blind Mode
Post by: seaking177 on January 10, 2012, 11:03:19 pm
Maybe its when they changed the room name Whee Sports(before the gravitron) to Copyright Infringement.Or did that happen before that got submitted...

Oh, haha - someone noticed :D

We failed submission first time around because of that. It's why we didn't get it out before Christmas like we were aiming to. Oh well.
Wii = Whee (they sound alike) i bet thats why! (Wii sports, get it  :victoria: ?)

also, good name choice when it was changed.

Edit:
final level in Time Trial DOES play the remixed song without backtracking, but only about 2 seconds of it, when it says GO! it resets and goes back to the normal song. i dont have a camera i can plug into my 3DS Headphone jack so i cant record it that way, but use headphones at max volume and you WILL hear the remix before it says GO!.