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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2012, 03:48:53 AM »
Looks like it's the 3rd video after all! Here's the 1st one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG54P89-qcU
That one made it in 14:21! :o :o :o I didn't see the whole video though, just SS1, the final score (where I saw the time) and the end.  ... :-\ ...
« Last Edit: November 10, 2012, 09:14:19 AM by blue626 »

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #76 on: November 17, 2012, 04:50:15 AM »
Here's my Time Trial stats now.

SS1: S
Lab: S
Tower: V!  :)
SS2: A
Warp Zone: A
Final Level: A

No deaths is still Thorny Exchange after saving  :violet: and  :vermillion:
« Last Edit: December 03, 2012, 09:42:57 AM by ToasterApocalypse »

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2012, 10:38:29 AM »
Small "bump"!

Update on my TT records:

Records in 2.0:
Speeedruns:

SS1 - 0:52 - 0d - 0/2tr. - S
Lab - 1:17 - 0d - 0/4tr. - S
Tower - Complete run has the same time and same deaths
SS2 - 2:11 - 0d - 1/5tr. - S
Warp Zone: 1:27 - 0d - 0/1tr. - S
Final Level: 2:05 - 3d - 1/1tr. - S (seems more like a hard A-rank :D)

Complete runs:
SS1: 1:?? - 0d - 2/2tr. - V
Tower - 1:32 - 0d - 2/2tr. - V
(rest I don't remember, but these are the only V ranks I got)

Records in both 1.2 and 2.0:
Speeedruns:

SS1 - 0:49 - 0d - 0/2tr. - S
Lab - 1:17 - 0d - 0/4tr. - S
Tower - Complete run has the same time and same deaths
SS2 - 2:05 - 0d - 1/5tr. - S
Warp Zone: 1:27 - 0d - 0/1tr. - S
Final Level: 2:05 - 3d - 1/1tr. - S (seems more like a hard A-rank :D)

Complete runs:
SS1: 1:04 - 0d - 2/2tr. - V
Tower - 1:32 - 0d - 2/2tr. - V
Lab - 2:34 - 4d - 4/4tr. - S
SS2 - 3:18 - ≈15d - 5/5tr. - S

(these are not really correct, due to the glicth mentioned before)

Looks like it's the 3rd video after all! Here's the 1st one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG54P89-qcU
That one made it in 14:21! :o :o :o I didn't see the whole video though, just SS1, the final score (where I saw the time) and the end.  ... :-\ ...

Here's my Time Trial stats now.

SS1: S
Lab: S
Tower: V!  :)
SS2: A
Warp Zone: A
Final Level: A

No deaths is still Thorny Exchange after saving  :violet: and  :vermillion:

The post you quoted has nothing to do with the Time Trials.
I actually got a V-rank on SS1 before I got it on the Tower.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2012, 10:52:21 AM by blue626 »

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #78 on: December 03, 2012, 09:43:48 AM »
Looks like it's the 3rd video after all! Here's the 1st one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG54P89-qcU
That one made it in 14:21! :o :o :o I didn't see the whole video though, just SS1, the final score (where I saw the time) and the end.  ... :-\ ...

Here's my Time Trial stats now.

SS1: S
Lab: S
Tower: V!  :)
SS2: A
Warp Zone: A
Final Level: A

No deaths is still Thorny Exchange after saving  :violet: and  :vermillion:

The post you quoted has nothing to do with the Time Trials.
I actually got a V-rank on SS1 before I got it on the Tower.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA well
I actually pressed the quote button and didn't take the quote out because pressing the reply button is just too mainstream

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #79 on: December 05, 2012, 06:56:47 PM »
Hi! New here, I've been trying No Death Mode and I was wondering if using this method for clearing Three's Company. (See 13:28) is considered legit in a No Death run, I've seen many other people do this as well so I don't know. At first I was thinking in not using it since Three's Company is not a room that give me troubles in the slightest but it seems that sometimes you ended going through those ropes a little causing you to jump a bit higher and you ended dying even when you're not trying to trigger the bug so I've been considering in using that but I'm not sure if it's considered cheat or not, what do you think?

Also, sorry if my english is terrible, it's not my first language.

« Last Edit: December 05, 2012, 06:59:30 PM by Zidnox »

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #80 on: December 05, 2012, 07:17:58 PM »
Hi! New here, I've been trying No Death Mode and I was wondering if using this method for clearing Three's Company. (See 13:28) is considered legit in a No Death run, I've seen many other people do this as well so I don't know. At first I was thinking in not using it since Three's Company is not a room that give me troubles in the slightest but it seems that sometimes you ended going through those ropes a little causing you to jump a bit higher and you ended dying even when you're not trying to trigger the bug so I've been considering in using that but I'm not sure if it's considered cheat or not, what do you think?

Also, sorry if my english is terrible, it's not my first language.



I think most people would consider that a bug exploit and therefore looked down upon as it bypasses the entire challenge. I can't speak for everyone, but from what I know about Terry, it seems he doesn't like people taking advantage of glitches.

Anyway, I had no idea that glitch even existed, and it seems strange. I wonder what causes it.

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #81 on: December 05, 2012, 07:18:52 PM »
Bloody hell! That's pretty damn good

That's an interesting exploit! I wouldn't consider it cheating :)

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #82 on: December 05, 2012, 07:43:12 PM »
I'm surprised you didn't know about that exploit, there have been other runs where this has been used like this one or this one.

I think those are all though, not many people have completed No Death Mode, I think there are only about 5 guys.

Oh well, I think I may just ended using that.

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #83 on: December 05, 2012, 09:17:04 PM »
I'm surprised you didn't know about that exploit, there have been other runs where this has been used like this one or this one.

I think those are all though, not many people have completed No Death Mode, I think there are only about 5 guys.

Oh well, I think I may just ended using that.

Haha, given the fact that the inventor of the game was surprised, I don't feel too bad about not knowing it.

Bloody hell! That's pretty damn good

That's an interesting exploit! I wouldn't consider it cheating :)
Wow, I guess I was wrong. Sorry for speaking for you, but would I be wrong in assuming that you would rather that exploit not exist? Definite props to the fans who were able to discover it, but in the end it does bypass the intended challenge...
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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #84 on: December 06, 2012, 05:50:59 AM »
:D Hahahahahahahahaha,  I died at the final spikes wall at the Final Challenge, this is the second time that this happens, I probably should just do it fast and not waiting too much there.

Maaaaaaan.

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #85 on: December 06, 2012, 06:02:09 AM »
The going-through-inversion-planes exploit also works in Three's a Crowd fyi.

EDIT: This exploit does ONLY work in 2.0 and the 2.1 beta, also. Flash versions (1.x) and the 3DS version (2.1 final) doesn't have it.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2012, 06:04:13 AM by FIQ »

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #86 on: December 06, 2012, 07:59:35 AM »
Well, that would have been interesting to know, but I've just cleared No Death Mode at this moment  :)

This challenge was nightmarish for me. And a whole lot of fun. I have no clue why I did it, and I quite possibly have the biggest love-hate relationship with it out of any part of any game ever. It's quite odd.

I'll probably gonna upload a video of it.

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #87 on: December 07, 2012, 10:17:04 AM »
The gravity line glitch happens because of the grav. line's behavior:
Some time after :viridian: touches it, :viridian: flips and the line turns grey for ≈1 second (less? more?). While grey, :viridian: can pass through it without being flipped.
A similar thing happens to vertical lines:

Anoter glitch/cheat, I saw it in Time Trials Youtube videos: If you touch a vertical gravity line and keep touching it, you may go back, but flipped! You can use this as a shortcut in the Lab and Final Level. Not sure if doing this is cheating :-\, but I never used it and will not use it anyway.

Regardless of Terry's opinion, I'm undecided if exploiting those glitches is cheating or not. They make it possible to be faster in the Lab and the Final Level, and I was thinking of using the glitch in horizontal lines in my level... :-\

The behavior of the grav. lines mentioned combined with the fact that touching a grav. line on top/bottom of the screen makes :viridian: go to the screen above/below and the fact that when enters a romm al grav. lines are white; creates the glicth that makes :viridian:, after touching a grav. line on top/bottom of the screen, flip twice and go into the screen above/below.

...Looks like the glitch on horizontal lines was already reported, but was only discovered in player levels:

IMPORTANT FOR TERRY!
This is the second level I've came across this glitch. If there's a platform with a horizontal gravity line slightly above/below you (depending on if your on the roof or floor) and you spam the flip button, you go through the gravity line. Hoping you could maybe fix it for version 2.1  :viridian:

Holy moly, mint301 glitch actually worked XD
But really, those Gravity Lines are sensitive ~


:D Hahahahahahahahaha,  I died at the final spikes wall at the Final Challenge, this is the second time that this happens, I probably should just do it fast and not waiting too much there.

Maaaaaaan.

Waiting just makes it be more precise, so I don't know how being fast can lower the chances of dying, at least in that case.

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #88 on: December 07, 2012, 11:13:35 AM »
Waiting just makes it be more precise, so I don't know how being fast can lower the chances of dying, at least in that case.

I suppose because I always cleared that part at the Time Trials relying in my muscle memory every time, so the first time I reached there in a real run I didn't want to take the risk, so I decided to take my time but it seems that being so nervous for reaching that far completely killed my skill, losing there twice isn't something normal at all, that's why I just decided to go with muscle memory the next time and it worked!

On the other hand

The gravity line glitch happens because of the grav. line's behavior:
Some time after :viridian: touches it, :viridian: flips and the line turns grey for ≈1 second (less? more?). While grey, :viridian: can pass through it without being flipped.
A similar thing happens to vertical lines:

I see, so that's why sometimes my jumps gets a little higher specifically in that part.

Also, not sure if anybody here cares but I already made the video
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 11:17:00 AM by Zidnox »

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Re: VVVVVV Records: No Death Mode, Super Gravitron, Time Trials
« Reply #89 on: December 10, 2012, 02:46:07 PM »
I suck at these modes.   :victoria:

I can barely get a B Rank on SS1 and I haven't even attempted the others.  My record for No death mode is only Brass Sent us Under the Top.  Super Gravitron must not be mentioned.