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VVVVVV => VVVVVV Help => Topic started by: CrazyBeast on December 02, 2014, 08:45:44 am

Title: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: CrazyBeast on December 02, 2014, 08:45:44 am
Hello!

Bought VVVVVV a week ago on steam and realy enjoyed this awsome game. Just finished main compain and all player levels that were initialy included.

Now im trying to download and install more levels, but... game doesn't see them. It says that i need to place them into user/??? ?????????/VVVVVV/levels. I do so, but no additional levels appear in the list. (question marks indicate a different langauge, as long as i have a russian version of windows. Can this cause a problem?).

I also tried to add levels directly into archive in steam/SteamApps/common/vvvvvv, but it says "archive is corrupted".

Additionaly, i can't load my own saved levels.

How can i fix this problem? Thx.
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: allison on December 02, 2014, 11:36:31 pm
Huh... Are there any non-English characters in the path? That's the only thing I can think of that would cause the problem?
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: CrazyBeast on December 03, 2014, 07:40:20 am
Huh... Are there any non-English characters in the path? That's the only thing I can think of that would cause the problem?
Yes. Game recognizes the path user/??? ?????????/VVVVVV/levels ("My Documents" wrote in russian) in game menu, and says to copy new levels there. However, nothing happens if i do so.

I did create new folder user/My Documents/VVVVVV/levels, but in this case one needs to make VVVVVV check this new folder. How can i do that? I dunno.
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: CrazyBeast on December 03, 2014, 07:45:14 am
Well, the new levels folder is actually in AppData (can't check at the moment but try pressing Windows+R (run prompt) and enter "%appdata%\VVVVVV" without quotes)
There is no VVVVVV folder in my AppData. Recall that i have a steam version of the game.
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: CrazyBeast on December 03, 2014, 09:04:38 am
Ok there is a solution, nonsatisfactory one but still...

I unzipped "data" archive from steam/SteamApps/common/vvvvvv, copied new level into "levels", and zipped in back. Now game sees new level.

But its frustraiting to do it every time i need to save and load my own levels. Still need a better solution.
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: CrazyBeast on December 03, 2014, 11:16:38 am
Same problem in "Make and Play" edition.
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: allison on December 04, 2014, 12:37:41 am
Well, I guess the only way to resolve is is getting Terry to fix it
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: Dav999 on December 04, 2014, 07:39:52 am
Is there a folder in AppData referring to Steam? Has the Make and Play edition made its own VVVVVV folder?

Actually, what path is listed by the game in the player levels menu?
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: CrazyBeast on December 04, 2014, 09:21:37 am
Is there a folder in AppData referring to Steam?
Nope.


Actually, what path is listed by the game in the player levels menu?
user/??? ?????????/VVVVVV/levels


Has the Make and Play edition made its own VVVVVV folder?
Same old user/??? ?????????/VVVVVV/levels.


Well, I guess the only way to resolve is is getting Terry to fix it
I guess you are right.
Terry! This dimension needs you! Plz?
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: Terry on December 04, 2014, 01:53:21 pm
Weird :( Could you please take a screenshot of where the game says your player level directory is? The levels are clearly installed somewhere, so I don't know what's going wrong...
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: CrazyBeast on December 04, 2014, 03:06:59 pm
Weird :( Could you please take a screenshot of where the game says your player level directory is? The levels are clearly installed somewhere, so I don't know what's going wrong...
Sure. Attached archive with 4 screenshots.

Fisrt screenshot: directory recongized by game.
Second screenshot: created a simple level. Saved it.
Third screenshot: level is in this directory.
Forth screenshot: tried to load. Loaded an empty level.

Same thing happens if i try to install new levels into this directory. Game doesn't see and can't load them.

But levels can be loaded and edited if i insert them into archive in steam directory (read above), which is boring (unzip, zip back every time i edit my level).
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: i'm not petrikov on December 06, 2014, 08:00:29 am
Can this cause a problem?
uh, yes
i guess simon roth didn't implement handing special characters of vvvvvv and there was probably no incentive to do so because there are no versions of vvvvvv in different languages
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: Terry on December 06, 2014, 09:04:23 pm
Weird :( Could you please take a screenshot of where the game says your player level directory is? The levels are clearly installed somewhere, so I don't know what's going wrong...
Sure. Attached archive with 4 screenshots.

Fisrt screenshot: directory recongized by game.
Second screenshot: created a simple level. Saved it.
Third screenshot: level is in this directory.
Forth screenshot: tried to load. Loaded an empty level.

Same thing happens if i try to install new levels into this directory. Game doesn't see and can't load them.

But levels can be loaded and edited if i insert them into archive in steam directory (read above), which is boring (unzip, zip back every time i edit my level).

Ok, that's really helpful and clear, thank you!

It looks like the level import code doesn't work with unicode folder names. I'll talk to Ethan Lee and see if he has time to fix it - it might well be a pretty straightforward fix!
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: CrazyBeast on December 07, 2014, 07:25:47 am
Ok, that's really helpful and clear, thank you!

It looks like the level import code doesn't work with unicode folder names. I'll talk to Ethan Lee and see if he has time to fix it - it might well be a pretty straightforward fix!
Ok, thank you!

Can you please keep me informed through this topic?
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: SJMistery on December 07, 2014, 08:12:00 pm
Weird :( Could you please take a screenshot of where the game says your player level directory is? The levels are clearly installed somewhere, so I don't know what's going wrong...
Sure. Attached archive with 4 screenshots.

Fisrt screenshot: directory recongized by game.
Second screenshot: created a simple level. Saved it.
Third screenshot: level is in this directory.
Forth screenshot: tried to load. Loaded an empty level.

Same thing happens if i try to install new levels into this directory. Game doesn't see and can't load them.

But levels can be loaded and edited if i insert them into archive in steam directory (read above), which is boring (unzip, zip back every time i edit my level).

Ok, that's really helpful and clear, thank you!

It looks like the level import code doesn't work with unicode folder names. I'll talk to Ethan Lee and see if he has time to fix it - it might well be a pretty straightforward fix!

and i hope it's soon, my idea of fixing levels has been interrupted by this glitch

sorry for the OT but: Terry! you still here! we were worried. and i am still waiting for the "tower-like level" script ;)
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: allison on December 07, 2014, 09:16:27 pm
sorry for the OT but: Terry! you still here! we were worried. and i am still waiting for the "tower-like level" script ;)
I don't think he's planning on adding any more features but it would be nice to be able to make custom vvvvvvmusic files
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: TmanDaCool1 on December 08, 2014, 12:49:14 am
sorry for the OT but: Terry! you still here! we were worried. and i am still waiting for the "tower-like level" script ;)
I don't think he's planning on adding any more features but it would be nice to be able to make custom vvvvvvmusic files +1!
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: Terry on December 08, 2014, 12:23:31 pm
but it would be nice to be able to make custom vvvvvvmusic files

Actually, that might be pretty doable, I can just compile a standalone .vvv packager: if I get a chance I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: SJMistery on December 09, 2014, 03:08:35 pm
sorry for the OT but: Terry! you still here! we were worried. and i am still waiting for the "tower-like level" script ;)
I don't think he's planning on adding any more features but it would be nice to be able to make custom vvvvvvmusic files
we loose nothing to try
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: TmanDaCool1 on December 11, 2014, 03:19:23 pm
Hey, I'm trying to learn python!  ;D

Maybe I can make a Raspberry Pi fangame of VVVVVV once I learn enough. But that might take a while...  :victoria:
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: allison on December 11, 2014, 11:07:51 pm
but it would be nice to be able to make custom vvvvvvmusic files

Actually, that might be pretty doable, I can just compile a standalone .vvv packager: if I get a chance I'll see what I can do.
I'm crazyal02 and I approve of this message.
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: i'm not petrikov on December 13, 2014, 01:19:50 am
Hey, I'm trying to learn python!  ;D

Maybe I can make a Raspberry Pi fangame of VVVVVV once I learn enough. But that might take a while...  :victoria:
no one in the distractionware community has a raspberry pi, and they probably aren't going to buy one to download your fangame
maybe you should use c++ or java instead
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: TmanDaCool1 on December 13, 2014, 04:14:36 am
Hey, I'm trying to learn python!  ;D

Maybe I can make a Raspberry Pi fangame of VVVVVV once I learn enough. But that might take a while...  :victoria:
no one in the distractionware community has a raspberry pi, and they probably aren't going to buy one to download your fangame
maybe you should use c++ or java instead

VVVVVV is already in C++

Also, people can download the vanilla python version of VVVVVV, too. Just want to experiment with Python, OK?
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: i'm not petrikov on December 13, 2014, 06:44:06 am
VVVVVV is already in C++
and that's relevant because?
Also, people can download the vanilla python version of VVVVVV, too. Just want to experiment with Python, OK?
but i don't feel like downloading a program to run a separate program
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: CrazyBeast on December 28, 2014, 01:48:24 pm
I'll talk to Ethan Lee and see if he has time to fix it - it might well be a pretty straightforward fix!
Terry!
Any news?
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: Terry on January 06, 2015, 06:35:51 pm
I mentioned it to him! He thinks it's fixable, but he's real busy right now with other things. I dunno when it'll happen.
Title: Re: Game doesn't recognize player levels
Post by: CrazyBeast on January 12, 2015, 01:58:37 pm
I dunno when it'll happen.
I'll try to be optimistic!