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Title: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on May 10, 2010, 11:19:12 am
Hi!

Do what I did: count some spikes in VVVVVV, mail me your answer. I'll send winners an unreleased song that will feature in Mega Man 2.5d :)

Hint/Rule 1: Posting the correct number of spikes in the forums will disqualify you!
Hint/Rule 2: Terry is disallowed to enter!
Hint/Rule 3: If you're Terry, don't cry, I'll send it to you too ;)
Hint/Rule 4: My email is my nickname at gmail dot com.
Hint/Rule 5: I liked music when I was in school. And arts.
Hint/Rule 6: The answer is more than 1,000, but less than 52,442.
Hint/Rule 7: I have a sense of humor about this and I hope you do too.
Hint/Rule 8: It's 14923! It's 14923!
Hint/Rule 9: The correct amount of spikes cannot be found among these hints. Disregard hint 8.
Hint/Rule 10: This contest's prize is REAL. THAT you can be sure of.
Hint/Rule 11: Since there are a whole lot of spikes, I'll allow a comparably small range of miscalculation error margin in your answers, compared to how many grains of sand there is on all beaches in all the world.
Hint/Rule 12: No more hints!

Get counting! ;)
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Terry on May 10, 2010, 12:03:17 pm
How do you know what the answer is? Did you count the spikes?  :-*
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on May 10, 2010, 12:25:15 pm
Spikes have been counted, let me tell you!  :viridian: (what a wonderfully vague answer, eh? =))
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: CooL on May 10, 2010, 01:38:02 pm
Well, good bye summer  :verdigris:  :viridian:
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Whirligig on May 10, 2010, 10:21:18 pm
I have only one comment:

 :verdigris:

Also, a few questions:

1. Are we limited to a certain number of guesses?

--> You have 3 guesses!

2. Are we limited to a certain number of simultaneous guesses?

--> You can do 3 simultaneous guesses in one mail, so long as you only guess once!

3. Does "VVVVVV" mean the game or the place? The ambiguity makes it unclear whether spikes in the Polar Dimension are to be included.

--> Ok, "VVVVVV" pertains to the levels in the game, overworld included. Only count standard spikes (not V-shaped formations or words like "SPIKEs do!" etc.

4. Can you tell us the margin now, so that later you can't claim it's 1 spike when we were expecting something bigger?

--> No!  :vermillion: The margin is at the discression of the judge(s). But rest assured that I'm not evil. Just jovial.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: arcticwolf15 on May 11, 2010, 12:11:35 am
No wai!
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on May 11, 2010, 07:44:23 am
I have a serious contender already... He's using mathematical algorithms and advanced computer programming to identify spikes and calculate them without manually doing the joyous counting! But don't worry about it - you have until the end of May to do this! :)
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: CooL on May 11, 2010, 11:13:14 am
Where's the fun in that  :(
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on May 11, 2010, 04:23:12 pm
The fun comes when he sends in his number and I disqualify him! ;P
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: James on May 11, 2010, 06:09:40 pm
The spike counts for each level will definately have to be added to the VVVVVV Wiki (http://vvvvvv-wiki.wikispaces.com/) at the conclusion of this competition.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Robson on May 11, 2010, 08:23:30 pm
The fun comes when he sends in his number and I disqualify him! ;P
Haha that guy is going to be so upset.

OH WAIT A MINUTE

:victoria:
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: CooL on May 11, 2010, 11:11:53 pm
I'm half way done  :viridian:

SHIT I lost the txt file that had the number  :-X
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Shasharala on May 12, 2010, 06:46:11 am
Whoa! Is this what I'm going to be doing with my free time now?  :'(
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on May 12, 2010, 07:38:12 am
Haha that guy is going to be so upset.

OH WAIT A MINUTE

:victoria:

Prizeless! :D

Whoa! Is this what I'm going to be doing with my free time now?  :'(

Yes. Counting is what brings you joy! Oh the fun of inspiring and motivating tasks, next funny contest will be to intriguingly find and curiously count the amount of happy pixels colored with the 6 joyous colors of the VVVVVV palette in a small 10 megabyte picture of awesomeness. Or maybe I can just ask you to tell me what 1+1 is, I haven't decided yet.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: dinx2582 on May 12, 2010, 01:44:44 pm
Boy I'm lazy, otherwise I'd be taking advantage of what appears to be a sweet deal (or something).  I bet that song completely kicks ass, though.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: StephenM3 on May 13, 2010, 09:47:11 am
Haha, I would never waste hours doing this.  Never.


Okay you got me, I actually started counting and got all the way through SS1 before I had to go to work.  Probably going to have better judgment in the future.  Probably.



 :( Can't I do something easier, like counting the drum beats in PPPPPP or the pixels in the Elephant?
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Robson on May 13, 2010, 12:05:36 pm
pixels in the Elephant?
Seconded! We should definitely do that!
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on May 14, 2010, 08:20:25 am
I've gotten many different answers by now... Participants will have their emails answered with a BCC email with the song at the end of the month. The song, by the way, is a relaxed, very catchy and earwormy song that will never leave your brain... EVER! :P

Hm, counting on the pixxellated elephant, no, that won't do! Hmm, if you want something easier... Write a story, where you include every room name in VVVVVV, on the topic of... A topic YOU guys put forward. Put some suggestions here and I'll pick one! The more hilarious, bizarre and fun the more likely I am to pick it.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: StephenM3 on May 14, 2010, 10:19:28 am
Ah, just kidding really.  As school is out and I'm getting a job, my free time is changing from "anywhere between fifteen and zero hours a day" to "eight hours every day," and I intend to put that consistency to good use.  I don't think I could feel good about myself if any of those precious, precious hours were spent counting spikes that have already killed me anyway.

I'll just wait until I can check out MegaMan 2.5 itself eventually!  ;)
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on May 14, 2010, 11:29:46 am
Kidding? How can you kid on this ultra-mega-super-hyper-important matter!? How can you actually claim you have something better to do than counting spikes? What a pompous thing to say! What's the matter with you?? ;)
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: James on May 14, 2010, 10:26:43 pm
SoulEye, you should send a quick e-mail to those of us who submitted answers just to confirm you recieved our submission.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Requiem on May 15, 2010, 06:48:54 am
Hey SoulEye, this begs the question - Whatever happened to MM2.5D? Since you're doing music for it, I have to assume it still is being made... But nothing has been posted anything about it since March of last year... way to get our hopes up and dash them without any news for an entire year! I know you're probably sworn to secrecy, but I just want the assurance that my most anticipated platformer of the last two years is actually going to come out!


Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on May 15, 2010, 12:40:43 pm
I am sworn to secrecy. Though I'd like to spill my guts on details, I can just tell you that I'm contributing to the project, that's all... Oh, and that there's more trailers out on youtube. Go have a look! :)
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: StephenM3 on May 15, 2010, 06:57:50 pm
This may seem obvious and/or pesky, but:

Can you even confirm that it is, in fact, being made?
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on May 17, 2010, 06:23:04 am
About that... Yeah... My inner politician must come out to worm my way out of answering this directly; I am contributing to a project that could be referred to as Mega Man 2.5d. For further info, please keep watching http://petersjostrand.com/

So, a shorter answer is that no, I cannot confirm (or deny) it. My hands are tied... :)
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on June 03, 2010, 02:04:52 pm
The competition is now done, and I'd like to congratulate the two winners Ridge Shrubsall and James Kay! Correct number of spikes is [removed/hidden], which James NAILED (spiked?). Fantastical! Your winnings are in the mail!

*applause*
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Mushyrulez on June 05, 2010, 01:31:05 am
Hmm, can't find it among your hints though  :victoria:
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: James on June 05, 2010, 07:43:46 pm
Nice! I was pretty confident in my number, but it sure is nice to see it confirmed. I'm interested to know what the strategies people used to count the spikes were, especially you SoulEye.

Awesome competition! Oh, sweet song too. It kinda reminds me of Pipe Dream.

I'll be adding all the spike count data from this contest to the VVVVVV Wiki (http://vvvvvv-wiki.wikispaces.com/) sometime soon.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Robson on June 05, 2010, 10:07:56 pm
Congrats guys :viridian:

I'm interested to know what the strategies people used to count the spikes were, especially you SoulEye.
I grabbed some maps of the game and converted them to black and white. Then I wrote some code that scans the images and counts all the spikes. Here's the tower (http://iceyboard.no-ip.org/images/vvvvvv_tower_spikes.png).

However, that wasn't in the spirit of the competition and I didn't have maps for the intermission levels, so I didn't do any other areas.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Shasharala on June 06, 2010, 07:21:22 am
Haha! Robson, you cheater!  :D

Congratulations, you guys!
I bet that song is just awesome.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on June 08, 2010, 06:26:11 am
Actually Robson, I'd allow that entry if you did it (those maps could be posted in the wiki!). I have a huge sense of humor about this competetition. :)
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: James on June 08, 2010, 06:30:25 am
Uh oh, I have a confession. Two actually.

I was just about to add my spike count data to the VVVVVV wiki when I noticed an obvious error in my data. Somehow I counted the "tower end row" spikes twice when I added my numbers up. Oops. That's my first confession.

My second confession is this: I counted every area in-game except for the tower. The tower scrolls, so I couldn't count manually. Instead I used the level map created by Kyledog found elsewhere in this forum. I've just realized (after seeing my numbers disagree with Robson's program's count for the tower) that this map is not using version 1.2, and so it has 13 fewer spikes than the current version does. Oops.

So the correct count, according to me should be [removed]. Strangely, SoulEye got the same number I did because he made the same mistake I did.

So for screwing this up so badly, I've paid my penalty by finally doing what I should have done all along and manually counting the tower. I get the same number as Robson this time.

-James
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on June 08, 2010, 06:43:01 am
Oh James, you now broke hint/rule #1! You have been disqualified! You must now delete the song... ;)
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Shasharala on June 08, 2010, 06:44:50 am
Hahaha!  You're such a laugh SoulEye.  :viridian:
That is a pretty funny predicament it appears you and James have both become a part of.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on June 08, 2010, 07:09:51 am
 :o I'm deleting it right now!
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Shasharala on June 08, 2010, 07:19:48 am
 :vitellary:
The music creator is destroying his own piece of art.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: James on June 08, 2010, 07:44:40 am
I've deleted it from my computer. I'll start trying to delete it from my brain too.  :D

All joking aside though, I edited my previous post to remove all final counts. The count is available at the VVVVVV Wiki (http://vvvvvv-wiki.wikispaces.com/Spike+Data) now, but I won't mention the total here again in case someone else wants to try. I don't want to spoil anyone's fun.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Shasharala on June 08, 2010, 07:46:47 am
Haha, cool.  I already forgot the number.  Maybe I will do it in my freetime.  :D
What a way to spend freetime, eh?  Counting spikes to sound cool.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: James on June 08, 2010, 07:57:17 am
Oh, by the way, I counted all the checkpoints too. Does anyone care to count, or even guess, how many there are?
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Shasharala on June 08, 2010, 08:07:39 am
Hmm... again, when I'm not working on things I'd love to try my hand at counting checkpoints.  Hopefully some others will give it a try, because truthfully, I may never get to it.  :victoria:
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on June 08, 2010, 08:29:49 am
That sounds like a new competition! How about I send a different, shorter tune to those who guess that one right? Incase spike counting was just TOO MUCH, you know? :)
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on June 08, 2010, 11:08:35 am
Hmm, can't find it among your hints though  :victoria:

I should have hinted more to the fact that the margin of error was, uhm, quite big.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Bythos on June 15, 2010, 09:13:56 pm
How did the vviki get the correct number of spikes? Did they use some kind of bot or something?
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: Mushyrulez on June 15, 2010, 11:22:45 pm
Read the previous pages :P
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: James on June 17, 2010, 06:37:54 am
How did the vviki get the correct number of spikes? Did they use some kind of bot or something?

The wiki uses the data from my manual spike count.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: James on September 14, 2010, 02:55:25 am
Hmm...I guess nobody else ever counted the checkpoints. Well, should I give away the answer, or does someone want to take a stab at it?

Souleye, is your short song still up for grabs to the winner?
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on September 14, 2010, 07:03:35 am
Sure! :)

(Please supply me with the right answer)
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: James on September 14, 2010, 07:21:45 am
Done. Check your inbox.
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on September 14, 2010, 07:22:18 am
Gotcha. Shall I count you as a participant too, or...?
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: James on September 14, 2010, 07:29:00 am
Well, I think it was my challenge in the first place, so it hardly seems appropriate that I enter a competition I proposed. Were you going to verify my count?

Even if I'm excluded from the contest, I'd love to hear the song anyway. Feel free to send it to me if you want to. I always enjoy your work.

By the way, might you be contributing any new music to Terry's "major update", speculated about here:

http://distractionware.com/forum/index.php?topic=233.0

Hmm...I wonder if these "contest songs" would go well with that lost seventh level...
Title: Re: Spike-counting contest
Post by: SoulEye on September 14, 2010, 07:33:42 am
I'm not going to verify it, however I can send you the song if you drop me an email.
I will not be creating another song for this, it will be the same as for the spike counting contest. For this one though, the count must be exact.

About the "major update"; time will tell. If I do contribute, it won't be the contest song, I can tell you that much.